Brow: The shell is literally js
Sambrook: Tcsc: like when you have a web project and change a js and e.g. express automatically detects that and restarts your server or just reloads the .js. e.g. pm2 does offer that
Feerick: Oh i don’t do much server stuff
Keitsock: Lots of people hate on it
Feerick: My server code is very thin
Feerick: Put this in the database, get this from the database, etc.
Leviton: Lots of DBAs hate on it, and since they’re the authorite.
Roles: Keitsock: I see that now
Keitsock: It has its upsides and its downsides. I like that you query it using js that’s pretty cool
Keitsock: But if your data is mission critical you better have a good backup strategy
Keitsock: Well.obviously 😛 but an *extra* good one with mongo
Sambrook: When is v8/nodejs going to support ES6 natively?
Keitsock: They are slowly working on it
Gerrero: Keitsock: ECMAScript 6 compatibility table – kangax https://kangax.github.io/compat-table/es6/
Keitsock: It’ll prob still be a while yet
Keitsock: Plus it won’t really matter because you won’t be able to realistically distribute es6 code even when they do
Keitsock: Unless you can afford to ignore the bulk of the web
Keitsock: We’ll be on babel et al for the foreseeable future
Keitsock: Especially since by the time es6 is realistic, es7 and es8 will be out.
Sambrook: Keitsock: I do not see v8 in that table.
Keitsock: And node on the far right
Keitsock: Slash io.js which iirc is merging back in
Sambrook: If v8 has ES6 tomorrow will nodejs will have it soon thereafter? Or will they need to rewrite lots of stuff before that?
Sambrook: But maybe that’s what they are doing atm with io.js
Keitsock: Starting to get out of my realm of knowledge but as I understand it node just takes v8 from upstream and slaps their stdlib over top
Keitsock: I don’t know much about the io.js divergence from node but from the look of that compat table its support is much higher. I don’t know if their v8 is just more up to date or what that is caused from though
Keitsock: I know you can enable some newer features in both io/node by p***ing args to node runtime
Cone: If you go to io.js faq they say they have a much more updated version of v8
Sambrook: Which feature in ES6 is about making quoting easier for html templates? e.g. something where I could return divhello/div” ?
Keitsock: Return div title='”this” all “works”‘test/div;
Sambrook: In the compat-table that is under the row “§String.prototype HTML methods” ?
Keitsock: Template strings I think
Sambrook: Hmmm. doesn’t seem like it
Cone: I didn’t know chrome was already there lol
Sambrook: And v8 already has them it seems :
Keitsock: Yeah the browsers support a fair bit of it already
Keitsock: Chrome supports promises and not only that will unswallow uncaught exceptions from inside promises
Cone: Did somebody said io.js merge was happening soon?
Sambrook: So just moving my code over to io.js could make my life easier :
Keitsock: Node and io.js agreed to merge
Keitsock: Not sure the timeline
Leviton: Use node.js, compile with babel, don’t worry be happy
Cone: I kind of don’t like babel :/
Leviton: Do you also hate icecream and puppies
Cone: I mean i think it’s great
Cone: But i just don’t see myself using it
Cone: Until native support :/