Proprietary software has.

Preedom: Good Evening! What could be a good issue tracker to be used in a small team to track and rank issues?

Lias: Kment: even for good software, open source doesn’t always make sense economically.

Legget: I’m 99% certain it’s a bug in the javascript. But I’m terrible at javascript

Visco: Any good experiences with e2e and nigh****ch.js?

Kment: Dekok: doesn’t make sense because you can’t know if software is good if it is proprietary can you

Blank: Kment: not really the problem here.

Schabowski: No_gravity, I had used without problems Trac, Redmine and Youtrack that is proprietary but free for small team

Stehly: It doesn’t matter if a software is good or bad codebase-wise economically anyway. And no one’s reading the source code of all OSS things they use.

Ferrarini: Hannibal_Smith: which one do you prefer?

Varlas: No_gravity, Youtrack was the most complete one

Trudnowski: How do you know that e.g.: SpiderMonkey has a higher quality than other JS VMs, for example, without reading and understanding the source code of all of them?

Miyata: No one really cares about that

Haupt: How does one debug javascript?

Kraus: Client-side or server-side?

Skevofilakas: What are your thoughts? Can’t think of pros/cons of having a long timeout on ajax calls like 20 secs. I noticed that there are rare times we’d get the response from our api beyond 20 secs. However, timeout will be ignored when we get a response quickly

Pettyjohn: From node, node-inspector and from the browser, through the developer tools

Kment: You don’t need to base a business on restricting access to developed software. Ubuntu doesn’t seem to have a problem making money

Ernzen: UoYkcuF, the mantainer just made a commit that fixed that bug apprently

Laguna: Thanks for letting me know

Guglielmina: And whoever develops that kicks ***. That’s some pretty quick bug fixing

Siniscalchi: I submitted that ticket like an hour ago

Maillard: Kment: “if X can do it, why can’t everyone?” isn’t really an argument. It also ignores that software is a vast field, and things differ a lot from X to “everything else”

Masturzo: UoYkcuF, yes that was pretty fast. You’ll have to get the latest commit though and may not be stable

Kment: No it’s a bad argument because I think Ubuntu is very near to break even and loss-making after further inspection

Raghunandan: AFAIK, Canonical is losing money every year.

Fraccola: Canonical losing money is unlikely to be related to Ubuntu being OSS though

Kment: If x can do it why can’t everyone isn’t an argument, you’re right. But morality is a better argument. And while you can close the source of something and do your best to keep it under wraps, it is aggressive and antisocial behavior to restrict the freedom of speech of everyone who would share software

Kment: If you buy something and copy it using your resources to share it to something else, you cannot punish people who are recipients of that just to protect a business model you like

Ross: Proprietary software has nothing to do with freedom of speech O.o

Liptrot: They’re like, entirely different things

Pope: OSS also does not guarantee user freedom.

Zerger: For example, I can open source some software, and still sue you if you use it.

Sylvan: Dekok: do you work for Oracle?

Kment: Exactly. I’m saying that’s wrong. Open sourcing makes a lot of sense and do it if you want to. If you don’t want to, don’t do it. I’m saying though that pretending it still belongs to you after it has been reproduced is bull****

Payen: Zerowaitstate: the “I” in that phrase wasn’t referring to me, as a person. But rather an hypothetical scenario

Fryberger: Kment: copyright laws are still in place. Your thing always belongs to you.

Kment: Proprietary software has everything to do with freedom of speech. When I share it, I’m just sharing information